Hi everybody from the Wörthersee, Austria
Today I have a special video for you, because
I will drive an older car
it's the 964 behind me
I'm very curious how this car drives like
Usually I drive modern sportscars only
the newest ones which I really enjoy
But I would like to know, how is such an older car like?
It's a 1990 model
it's basically two years older than I am
and everything of this car is like...
well, let's say less is more
yes, put it this way
The car is Rene's car
please join me here
Hello Sophia
Hi Rene!
This is your car
yes
and you are passionate about cars right?
yes
You told me that you also drive a GT3
Yes a GT3 and also a GT3RS
and also the successor of the 964, the Porsche 993
We drive with the 993 successfully in the Sports-Cup and challenge
I basically love the old Porsche cars
you are a hardcore Porsche collector right?
yes you can call me Porsche collector
with only a few cars
we were having a drink in the Cafe yesterday and you told me about
the old Porsches and how cool they actually are
Yes I tried to make the car tempting for you
And I found it great so Rene provides me the opportunity to drive in his car
we will drive at the Wörthersee and up to the Pyramidenkogel which is a nice road
and I'm really excited about that!
So I guess I'll get in the car, but there is one thing I wanted to show you
the sound of the door is so special
That's like a real Porsche!
This is Porsche!
Can you tell me a little bit more
technical details about the car
So this is a Porsche 964 from 1990
Yes, 964. Model is from 1990
manual gearbox C2 (Carrera rear wheel drive)
there is also a C4 (Carrera all wheel drive)
Manual gearbox
it has an air condition already
It already has electric windows
here is the proof
it has 250HP
it has slightly more power due to a cartronic tuning
this is how it is called
we can also have a look in the engine bay?
yes please!
because you can still see the car here
in the GT3 there is only a black cover visible
okay, please show me the engine
let's open it
and
wow
and you can see
what?
nice
it is really fun to drive this car
it's different to the new cars
it is a bit more nervous on the rear axle
it doesn't have electronic drive aids
but nevertheless
those old cars are really fun to drive
it has a roll cage
carbon fiber bucket seats
I want to show you this as well
those red parts are very nice
the roll cage and those parts are red
it this authentic or after market?
no it isn't authentic
it is not authentic
okay
the color is not the authentic color, it is actually black
yes
you wrapped the car, right?
Exactly!
it looks very very fancy
the cockpit is pretty much...
it is the typical Porsche cockpit
as it was built back then
can I have a seat?
yes of course
it was always the same on the 964
we have a cassette radio here
it has an AC
It already got the AC, yes
and here we can see
the oil temperature indicator
it has lots of indicators
We don't have a car computer, nothing electrical
So we have to read all those indicators
not like in the new cars where you have a virtual display
it has electric windows
door belts to open the door
nice Alcantara over here
You really did a great Job
thank you!
I would suggest
let's drive it!
Let's go!
Can I adjust the steering wheel?
No!
Let's try it
everything is heavier, the clutch is stiffer
yes that is tough
let me put it into neutral
where is reverse gear?
or first gear?
I don't need reverse now
the the front and
exactly
Is this reverse gear?
yes it is
okay this is first gear then
Let's try it, oh my god
I have to adjust the rear mirror
it's normal that you hear weird noises on an old car, right?
yes indeed
oh I love that sound!
This is... well,
it's totally different to what I usually drive!
yes
How do I get the windows up? Oh the electric windows
yes
ah okay
What is the weight of the car?
it should be at 1,160kg
and
back then it was one of the modern cars of the Porsche era
after the
G-Models
In the 90' it was a very modern Porsche
okay
the car is two years older than me
but it is insane
I just roll down the hill here
and I still have to work and steer
yes
The seats are adjusted to a taller man
I almost can't push the clutch all the way down
the seat belt is pretty high
It probalby looks weird how I sit in the car
No no, it looks very sexy
But it is very cool. I love the manual gearbox
You really feel the entire road in this car
I feel every bump on the road
the steering wheel has lots of feedback
you kinda have to fight with the steering wheel
It doesn't has power steering does it?
no, but it still has power steering support
ok
but you cannot compare that to the new cars
with the 991 GT3 for example
if you want to turn around that is kinda difficult
yes, that is more difficult
the brakes are basically as good as the brakes of modern cars
I have to say the brakes are pretty good
the car is actually a bit nervous
because it has no driving aids like ESC
so it is kinda nervous on the rear wheels
when you drive it faster
then your GT3 is way easier to drive than this car
especially with rear wheel steering
This is one of the reasons why I really wanted to try such an older car
I actually don't know anything about it
and I'm happy that we met each other at the Wörthersee
because I always wanted to know how such an old Porsche is like to drive
I only know the new ones
yes
just to feel the difference
so what do you say? What's your first impression?
My first impression is: You really feel the car
yes
You feel it. You have to work while driving
How many km did you drive here?
About 800km from my home
wow 800km in this car!
yes
on one day
yes one day
insane!
this atmosphere is priceless isn't it?
yes
The sound of this car is insane
It's the old Boxer engine as it was built
This is what the Porsche is all about
and
once you owned such a car it is very very difficult to sell it again
the modern engineering is build in almost all cars
you know it from your car
sure
your current car
I think that this is something absolutely different
the passion for older cars
is way more intense than it is for modern cars
yes, correct!
there is probably more emotion invovled
Exactly
I have to say that I actually prefer to drive modern cars because I grew up with them
I love the modern cars
I couldn't be happy with such a car as a daily driver
because I don't have the necessary love for such a car
I think you had to grow up with it
yes that is true, I agree with you
Nowadays it is not a car to drive early to the bakery
but it is a car for the weekend, to have some fun with it
but the modern cars are better for now
the gearbox is easy to handle isn't it?
yes it is easy, but the clutch is a bit stiff
you really have to kick it back
yes, that's right
in a modern manual car you can hit the clutch with your tiptoe
right
yes, you really have to work here, especially me as a woman
I really have to work here while driving
but I thought it would be worse!
I also have the bucket seats in my Porsche that I cannot adjust
I can fold them so I have more room for luggage in the back
Yes I have them as well
I cannot adjust anything else
But I really like the position and how you sit in the Porsche bucket seats
yes
But when you are the passenger and you want to sleep during long distant tours, that is not possible
that's right
it is even more extrem with the new Porsche GT3RS seats which has the 918 Spyder seats
yes
and they are even stiffer and harder
you can adjust even less on them
So if you sit for a long time at McDonalds
it's getting uncomfortable
it is only a car for sporty people that's why it is called sportscar
it's insane
the sound is so great
sound is nice, yes
Boxer sound
I really love that
Do you know what I like the most?
you have no artificial sounds
no fake backfire
yes, that's true
exactly
when you drive it, everything feels so authentic
I hope I put it in reverse
you are doing absolutely fine Sophia!
that was easy
if you have lot's of room, that is easy
Now I have to put it in first gear again
super cool! I have so much fun driving this car!
I didn't expected that
it is definately outstanding when young people like you
suddenly appear with such an old car
because everybody will question that and think that doesn't not fit together
Yes, true!
What did this car cost when it came out?
about 35.000DM to 40.000DM (~ 18.000€ to 20.000€)
What is the price today? When it is in perfect condition?
Currently there are not many manual C2
I mean, there are many but they are expensive
okay
and it is about 70.000€ today
wow, that is crazy
you can buy a new Porsche from that money
yes, you can buy a new one
they probably all think that I'm your young wife
yes
woops I stalled it
it happened!
Yes it happened!
it was so cool!
it was so much fun for me!
it is such a nice car!
Something absolutely different to a modern Porsche
but
everyone should try that to know what Porsche is all about and where the brand comes from
and how they developed the cars
yes, true!
thank you so much
you are welcome!
Have a safe trip home!
hopefully the car will work
and a short drive
and maybe we see each other next time
yes, see you next time!
for sure!
okay, how do I get outta here?
just pull there
Sophia! GT3!?
GT3 does not have door belts, only the GT3RS got them
yes, you are right!
okay guys that was the 964
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Claus drove the car as well, what do you think of the car?
Really nice car! I've never driven an old car
I've never driven a car older than 1998 maybe
Usually he drives
and it was a Porsche!
yes, this car drives by itself
it is something different
the 964 is very cool to drive!
such a nice feeling with the gearbox, the seats
I thought it would be totally different but I was surprised in a positive way
Now I know how good the GT3 is
See you next time guys!
Ciao!
Bye!
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